Want to experience deeper, more rich, nourishing and profound relationships? This episode is for you!
Join me as I interview Lisa Flynn, an authenticity coach and connection specialist on a mission to massively upgrade the relationship skills of men and women worldwide.
Lisa desires to cultivate a world where people remember the innocence, wholeness, and beauty of being radically themselves.
As a former Chief Culture Officer at the Contentment Foundation, Emotional Intelligence Researcher at Yale, and international yoga retreat facilitator, Lisa’s superpower is helping people improve their communication and create high-quality, rewarding relationships.
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Want to experience deeper, more rich, nourishing and profound relationships? This episode is for you!
Join me as I interview Lisa Flynn, an authenticity coach and connection specialist on a mission to massively upgrade the relationship skills of men and women worldwide.
Lisa desires to cultivate a world where people remember the innocence, wholeness, and beauty of being radically themselves.
As a former Chief Culture Officer at the Contentment Foundation, Emotional Intelligence Researcher at Yale, and international yoga retreat facilitator, Lisa’s superpower is helping people improve their communication and create high-quality, rewarding relationships.
You'll Learn:
Show Links:
Connect with Lisa Flynn on Instagram - @thelisaflynn
Join my Mindset and Health Coaching to find balance and fulfillment in your daily life
Thank you so much for listening. I’m so honored that you’re here and would be SO grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple podcasts or Spotify, that way we can inspire and educate even more people together.
I’d love to connect with you on IG: www.instagram.com/bindistables
Visit my website for more resources and ways to work with me: www.bindistables.com
Hey and welcome back to another episode of Vibrant you.
Speaker 1:Today is a special episode. We have an amazing interview with one of my dear friends, lisa Flynn, and we are getting into all things relationships, connection and authentic relating. So we are talking about the secrets of authentic connection, how to create deeper, more rich, nourishing and vibrant relationships. We're talking about boundaries and why being nice isn't always kind, how to move through resentments in our relationships, communication tips to support and nourish our relationships. And Lisa and I also go really deep and really personal into a very raw and real conversation on how we actually moved through a little conflict or point of tension that came up for us and our friendship just a couple of months ago, and so we share exactly what happened and how we moved through it and how this point of tension and disconnect really became an opportunity for connection and intimacy and feeling more connected and vibrant in our connection moving forward. So Lisa is a dear friend of mine and she is an authenticity coach and connection specialist on a mission to upgrade the relationships of men and women worldwide. She was the former chief culture officer at the contentment foundation, an emotional intelligence researcher at Yale and an international yoga retreat facilitator, and her superpower is truly helping people improve their communication and create really beautiful, rich and rewarding relationships. So when she's not in session, you can find her at her contact improv, dancing away, or on an ocean adventure in Bali with her husband of 10 years, dan, who is also a dear friend of ours, and she shares her work worldwide in coaching programs, authentic relating trainings, festivals and retreats. So I can't wait for you to tune in and have a listen to this conversation and please do let us know your top takeaways. Send Lisa or myself a DM on Instagram, share this episode with someone you think it can help, and we will love to hear your takeaways. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the vibrant you podcast. I'm your host, bindi Stables, and here we talk all things wellness and vibrant living. You'll learn about integrative health, functional medicine, holistic biohacking and enjoy raw and real conversations on personal growth, mindset and motivation. Optimize your body and mind and become the happiest, the healthiest, most vibrant. You Enjoy the show. Hey, and welcome back to another episode of vibrant you.
Speaker 1:Today we have a very special guest joining us. We have Lisa Flynn, which is an amazing authenticity coach and connection specialist that I personally consider just the absolute queen of connection, and Lisa is also one of my dearest friends here in Bali and truly just one of the most vibrant and alive and inspiring humans that I know. And with Lisa I feel like every time that we are together we always end up having just the most beautiful and rich and deep and inspiring conversations that I always just leave feeling so connected and so expanded by. And we've actually we've joked so many times that how fun would it be to just set up a mic when we hang out and hit record, because what comes through in our conversations always feels so powerful. So here we are today doing that, and I'm just so grateful that you're here. So thanks so much for joining me, lisa.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, Bindi. This is such a delight and pleasure and I agree it would have been so fun to record all of our previous conversations. So now that we're here, I'm excited to see what unfolds, what comes up.
Speaker 1:I'm excited. Well, I have the pleasure of knowing you, Lisa, but for our community, I'd love for you to just share a little bit of who you are and what you do and why you do it.
Speaker 2:So I'm an authenticity coach and I really love focusing on helping people awaken the parts of themselves that have been dormant, have been shut away, and to really allow those spaces to shine Right. There's so much conditioning that we have that have protected us, that has allowed us to survive and thrive, and at some point we all reach a place where there are parts of us that just need to be set free, to be nurtured, and I like nothing more, like it brings me so much joy to see people in their fullest expression, whether that's in the more sexy, sensual side of them or the part of them that's really playful and childlike, that they haven't been tapped into for a while or maybe it's just a little bit more messy and weird and quirky and allowing those flaws and imperfections to shine. So that really touches my heart and I know I've been on my own journey with it. So being in this space of allowing people to blossom into their fullest authentic expression, whatever that might look like for them, is my absolute joy and delight.
Speaker 1:I love that and I so personally experience that when I'm with you, as I feel consistently so expanded by our interactions and by our friendship and by the conversations that we have and all that I, over the last I don't know seven years of our friendship, have been so blessed to receive from you. So I'd love to just explore with you. I know, for me personally and so many people in our community, there's this desire to experience more rich and deep and nourishing and profound connections like what you and I have and like what many of us in our community experience here in Bali but is so void or not tapped into in so many different cultures and places and relationships around the world. So if this connection that we really desire, if there was a recipe for it, for creating that really authentic and deeply connected relationships, whether that's romantic relationships or friendships or whatever it may be, what would be, what would you say are like the key ingredients to really creating that connection?
Speaker 2:I think the first thing is to slow down. It seems really simple, but in allowing ourselves to really receive the moment, receive ourselves, be tuned into our bodies, slow down enough to hear the inner thoughts, feel the inner sensations, then what is true in that moment has more space to actually arise, to be revealed, to be shared, to be a source of connection. So I think if there's one thing it would be slow down, whether that's with yourself or with somebody else, because in that slow down, expansive space there's so much rich information that can come through. So that's number one. Number two, I would say is sort of to really welcome and accept more parts of you. So when you have this mindset of really allowing all of it to be welcome right, All the parts, even the awkward, crunchy, weird, shameful, angry, uncomfortable things, then you get to experience yourself as a full spectrum being. It doesn't mean that you're always angry, you're always sad, but you can move through some of these experiences a little bit more fluidly. And in allowing and welcoming more parts of you, then you can share that with somebody else, you can receive that from somebody else and there's a bridge, there's a connection.
Speaker 2:We are all human, we all have these multi-dimensions and sometimes they contradict each other. There's a great quote, that's you know, do I contradict myself? Oh, I actually can't remember exactly how to remember it later, but you know, so be it. We get to be totally multi-dimensional. So, welcoming more of ourselves brings in connection and then maybe revealing, bringing yourself forward, stepping forward into revealing who you are.
Speaker 2:In that moment, even if it's shaky, like right now, I can feel my armpits sweaty and I noticed that I was embarrassed that I couldn't remember the quote. And this is all part of my reality and there's another part that can just move on and I'm enjoying being here with you and I'm finding this so thrilling and what a delight to have this experience. So, after revealing yourself, I would say yeah, just taking responsibility also, because there is a connection that you want to not only just like, it's not just about radical honesty, you say whatever you want, but there is an honoring that there's someone else on the other side, there's a receiver who is interacting with, and I want to make sure that we have a shared reality, a shared connection, so you can honor yourself, but you're also honoring the other person and considering them in the ways that you show up in those connections and communications.
Speaker 1:And, yeah, one of the things that I appreciate most about you, lisa, and like about our connection and how we relate to one another, is it really does I really see all of those themes that you mentioned and how I feel fulfilled by that in our connection and with all of the connections that I have.
Speaker 1:These piece on like slowing down and giving ourselves permission, like you just displayed, to check in with ourselves and what is it that I'm feeling right here and holding the nuance that we can be holding multiple realities at the exact same moment, and like how intimate that feels when someone lets you into their inner world and into their inner experience of those different pieces that are alive for them. So I thought, as you were sharing, I'm like there's something about vulnerability and like the requirement for us to really step into these authentic, really deeply connected relationships requires us to get vulnerable right, to be really deeply honest with each other and to expose those parts of ourselves, like you said, that might feel cringy or awkward or clunky or uncomfortable, but, yeah, what would you say about the importance of vulnerability or like, how do we do that?
Speaker 2:First, I think that vulnerability requires that you have to feel a certain edge within yourself. So it might appear, for example, that what I shared was vulnerable, that my armpits are sweaty, but I've said that before. There's sort of a comfort with that. So for me, revealing that doesn't necessarily feel super vulnerable. I have to reach a certain threshold within myself and that is something that only I can know, right, only you can know what is going on inside of you.
Speaker 2:So sometimes there are parts of us that need to, we need to tend to, that haven't been fully integrated, that we need to be kind, and it's important to also notice okay, where am I being coming from the mindset of like I want to share this because it will bring me closer to you and this will support our dynamic, versus I just need to let this out and like, have a just let it, you know, kind of just express yourself without considering the other person. So vulnerability is an important piece for our connection and conversation and there are nuances to it that I love diving into. It's not a blanket where we just share everything, right? I'm sure you've had those experiences. I wonder if you've had those experiences where people just like they overshare, and it's I found myself like kind of tuning out and they're not really relating to me or noticing. So someone can be vulnerable, but not in connection. Maybe that's the point of what I'm sharing is that vulnerability doesn't imply that you're contributing to a connection or to more intimacy.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's such a great point is you literally could like be so vulnerable and so in your heart and so oversharing, but if the other person isn't in a space to receive that or to open to meeting you in that vulnerability, then there's no connection. Right, the connection is a reaching or a grasping or a you know, reaching towards, but there's no one meeting you in return. And I think there's so much about just safety and collaboration and boundaries. Actually, that even comes into play when it comes to connection. Actually, let's talk about that. What's the place of boundaries in connection? Because I feel like so much of connection is like being open-hearted and exposing ourselves and being vulnerable, but I feel like boundaries have such a big place in actually creating connection as well. What would you say?
Speaker 2:Yeah, boundaries are a really great topic to explore. I think what comes up for me around that is having porous boundaries. So when you're too permeable and not protecting or holding certain things sacred, that that can also lead to the possibility of not really being fully in your truth. Right, it can be inauthentic to be sharing because it can feel a little bit awkward or that it's you're not ready to share and that you're you're not holding the boundaries. The boundaries can be very loving, like to, yeah, to really bring yourself into connection with someone through sharing. When you need some space or hey, I need an hour to calm down a little bit and then I would love to revisit this conversation those kind of boundaries can be really powerful in demonstrating the care that you want in a connection. They're not to close people off. They can actually bring us closer by being honored and by being expressed.
Speaker 1:I love that I feel like there's one sentence that I use so often in my relationships nowadays is like when it is feeling vulnerable, it is feeling edgy to share something. Maybe it's expressing a boundary or something that I'm not feeling really fulfilled in the connection. Is like really coming back to this piece of like I care about you too much to not say this. Or like with my partner, with Dale, I'll say like I love you too much to not reveal this to you, right? Or to not express that boundary, because I know that if I don't express that boundary of like, today we were kind of like bouncing around and had so much going on and I was feeling really busy and overwhelmed. He was seeking connection. I was like I have a million things to do and I have to prepare for this interview and blah, blah, blah. And yeah, I was realizing that I was feeling a little bit resentful, like I felt him kind of like keep reaching out and being vulnerable, like you just said, but there was something in me that wasn't available in that moment. Of course, we have that relationship that is deeply connected, but in that moment, like I was just busy and had things going on and so actually the loving thing to do in that moment was not to be passive and be kind and fake or pretend that I was connecting with him, but to be really honest and say, hey, babe, I care about our connection way too much to not let you know that I'm just feeling really busy and really overwhelmed right now and I'd love to connect with you in another moment and kind of like coming to an agreement over that and that felt so connecting and so intimate, versus pretending everything's okay and or not saying anything which would lead to resentment or that create a story in my mind that he's always clinging or always pushing me or always striving for something that I'm not available for.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I so feel what you're saying in that and I'm curious if you'd be open. I feel like it'd be so helpful for people like you and I we talk in this way and it feels there's a level of comfort, like you said, to talk about boundaries and talk about connection and reveal our hearts and do this authentic, relating. But I'm thinking of me like five years ago, even like two years ago, where I was not in this space and did not have these tools. I'm wondering if you'd be open to like, sharing a little bit of like something that you and I went through recently that brought us so much closer, this like little thing where I was feeling some like pain and discomfort in our relationship and I felt so safe with you to come to you with that and you so we just so met each other in that discomfort. Are you open to kind of going through that a little bit? It's a little bit edgy, but I'm curious if you're open.
Speaker 2:So open. I would love to dive into that. That feels very alive and real and relatable. So I guess my desire is to hear maybe you kick it off like set the stage, and then I can weave in some of the things that I was experiencing on my side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and how we both met each other and how that became such an opportunity for, like, I feel so close with you and I felt like our connection just deepened so much through that hard, cringy, awkward conversation. So what happened was this was like, I guess, a month or two ago, so it was recent, and you and I have been friends for like seven years and our connection is so important to me and I love you like crazy. Yeah, and it was one of those things where I was like I something happened in our friendship and I won't I won't bring up all the details just to honor and respect the other person involved in their privacy, just to be in my integrity but something came up where I felt like you, like my judgment was you siding with the other person or you know, I kind of lumped you in with that other person that I was feeling really hurt by and I had all these judgments and all these projections as to like you should have chose me, like I'm supposed to be your better friend, and my little girl got hurt inside and and I felt so actually like really ashamed to say that, because I was feeling like jealous, I was feeling shamy, I was feeling really cringy, like these parts of me that were feeling really hurt, and I had this story like I shouldn't be hurt by this. I knew in my head Lisa didn't do anything wrong, lisa didn't mean to do any harm, but in my body and in my heart I was like something feels hurt. And I came to you and you know we sat in a park under a big tree, on the grass and, like, held each other's hands and just had the most intimate, you know, vulnerable, open, raw conversation around it. And so much healing happened. I'd be curious what was your experience in that and what came up for you?
Speaker 2:I all rewind it to kind of like moment moment snapshots. I remember receiving your message in a text message or a voice note and something in my stomach like clenched.
Speaker 2:I was like oh no, what did I do wrong? What is this about? I wasn't 100% sure I had. Maybe, yeah, I just wasn't totally sure. So I noticed first that part of like we, I don't want to harm or disturb, or like what's this, what's this about? And then the part of me relaxed and realize, wow, this is somebody who loves me so much, they're willing to have these kind of tough conversations, to reveal their full truth and are willing to spend the time and energy to actually reach out and say what's going on. So, in that sense, after I felt honored, like yes, these are the kind of relationships that I want to be surrounded by and, frankly, from this work and from focusing on relating and communication, I have met more and more people who have this capacity. So it's one of my greatest benefits is that my community and the friends and the people I surround myself with, including you, especially you is that we get to have these conversations.
Speaker 2:So from there, I remember us going to the park. We chose a place, you know, we set that context. Okay, when? How long? What's this kind of about? So in that, I felt very safe. We had dialogued, you know, for back and forth to figure that space out. And when we arrived, I just I saw your face, I felt your energy and I knew that we were both coming into the conversation wanting to connect. And that was the important piece for me is that there was an intention for connection. It wasn't about You're right, you're wrong. You did this, I did this. Let's let's figure out who's to blame.
Speaker 2:It was very much a desire to deepen into our connection, so that really stood out about how you showed up into the space and and then I remember when you you revealed what was going on, which was this, from my take, this like embarrassing thought or the shameful thought that I would blame you or that I would include you in that judgment? I, I just felt my whole system saw thin and you did it with such tact and grace. There was no blaming or finger pointing. There's so much responsibility and awareness that you brought to that conversation that just blew me away Such, and that really was that vulnerable space like I could feel how this is an edge.
Speaker 2:This is not something that you're I would imagine you can correct me. This is not a conversation. You have all the time and you're tiptoeing into unknown territory. So on my side I just felt like this is. I felt so alive, like the whole space, that the park really like brightened and our little bubble became very potent and in that space I could feel Just so much presence, like I just had so much compassion and care and love and just it was just Expanding me so much to to meet you, to meet this truthful, revealed, tender, precious part of you. So I'll I just kind of melted into the whole experience honestly and I was like I just love you tremendously and Part of my heart aches to see you in pain and let me remind you, you know, the first you sharing this is totally welcome. I'm Adoring this part of you, and you know. And then we went into maybe a little bit more, but that's these are some of the memories that come up for me. How about for you? What? What's being evoked for you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, all of that it's actually really sweet to think back on and remember, because I remember in that moment like I came to you and at first I was like hey, lisa, like so excited to see you. And then we like sat down. I was like, okay, we're here to have this talk and my heart's racing and my palms are sweating and my eyes are watering and I said to you I'm like I feel so embarrassed, I feel so ashamed that I'm like having these like mean thoughts towards you and I'm in this inner battle because my head is like I Know she didn't do anything wrong and these are all judgments and projections. And also to be like oh, but, but it's tender and it hurts and like, even though it doesn't make sense, it, these feelings are still valid. And so you know, as you were sharing some things really clicked of like what the conditions were that allowed us to go to that depth, because I'm imagining, like me going to that, like you said, I can't have this conversation with everyone because maybe not everybody's available for that right, and so safety was a big one, and you I mean, of course, who you are and the work that you do I felt so safe coming to you in that space that I knew that I knew that you'd be able to hold me in that and I just had that trust and, like you said, we created that agreement, we created that context. We were both so honest about things that, like, maybe we Didn't really want to share or things that we hadn't really considered about how, you know, our behaviors on both sides, you know, could have landed for the other person and I think a big, another big theme in that was like a self-responsibility Right where I didn't come into the conversation saying, lisa, you made me feel right, or coming in with blame, or you know, I really owned like this is, this is what is going on through my heart right now, and I'm not saying that this is the truth of who you are and I'm not saying that this is the truth of what happened, but I just feel like this, this pain just needs space to be seen and I trusted you to see that and to hold that end.
Speaker 1:The other big thing is me to be self-responsible and for you also to not like make it mean anything about yourself, not take it personally, not say like, oh, bindi's upset at me or Bindi's feeling disappointed, so I must be a disappointment. Or, bindi is Having a moment of feeling like our friendship is a little bit rocky and I'm a bad friend Right, or like not taking it personally as well. I feel like that's so important. I know in the past I've gone to friends or gone to relationships where I wanted to talk something out and have this thing in my heart, go with self-responsibility, shared it, and they completely collapsed and like oh, I'm a horrible person and I I shouldn't have done that, and they self-blame. And then I feel like I have to kind of like hold them, you know, through their experience of being uncomfortable with my uncomfort, and then I mean there's no connection in that space. So what, what do you think like when it comes to self-responsibility and, you know, owning our projections but also being honest, like what comes up for you in that space?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess to piggyback on part of that is that we went in with the agreement to talk about your feelings, right? So this wasn't about me and of course, I was prepared to have an exchange and share my experience. But it was important to me to really hear you and hold a space to the capacity that I could, because I also Maybe the underlying Agreement was also to say that if I did reach a threshold Then I would let you know and and maybe that was implied in our conversation but I felt like we have that kind of trust built into our relationship where it doesn't require me to be a punching bag. And you didn't do that, you didn't go that route, but it doesn't mean that I have to infinitely hold space for you for hours and hours and hours. Right, the whole point is about us being present and connected and honest and just allowing that to Impact both of us. So that helped me to check in.
Speaker 2:I was monitoring myself, while also Having one part of me in my attention inside and one part of me with you.
Speaker 2:I was neither all in you and like worried and taken care of you and you know, losing myself or losing my boundaries, losing my sense of my capacity.
Speaker 2:I was also not fully Retreating right, my energy wasn't fully outside and and ignoring and just allowing you to talk without really listening. I wanted to deeply listen to you and let it impact me like I felt so much and and that's that's like such a precious experience that I got to have with you, where it also landed for me that there were moments where I could share it like wow, I think parts here's where I can take responsibility to. It helped me open up my range of reality to say you know what I hear you in taking your responsibility and I also want to share. Let me list out some of the ways that I I could have done or I want to do better next time, and it's not coming from a place of saying, oh, I'm the worst and oh, blaming and feeling really bad about myself. But here's what I want to bring forward into our relationship because now that I'm learning this lesson, I want to do my best to show up differently in some of these ways that I would shift our dynamic.
Speaker 1:I'm so powerful. I love that I feel like having those boundaries in place, or that clarity in place really is the condition that creates trust in relationships and safety. I know that because I know that you know your boundaries, you know your limits and I trust you to express them with me and in that way I feel safe to open my heart with you, because I know that I'm not going to be opening my heart and exposing what's real and alive for me and you nodding your head, saying yes, I hear you and simultaneously resenting that I'm going on and on about my story. It brings me to a past version of me and I know a lot of women can relate of like people pleasing and overextending and not maybe have like being the good girl, being the kind one, being the nice one, the one that's always there for people, the one that always knows what to say. So what would your advice be for someone that is maybe more in that people pleasing and struggles with boundaries when it comes to connection?
Speaker 2:First, there has to be some awareness that that's going on. And I think to your point on feeling resentment if you are noticing that you're feeling resentment towards someone, that's a super great flag to check in and see, well, what is underneath that resentment. Maybe it's that there's something more that you want, or there's something that you don't want, there's a boundary or a desire that's not being met, not being acknowledged. That's where I would start. I'd say, start to pay attention. This is the easiest access point is your emotional space. Find those places of resentment and go one step deeper. Figure out what is it that you actually want here and from that right then possibility happens because the resentment it's sticky, it keeps us, keeps me very antagonistic. I find this other person to be causing I keep going to victimhood, like I know this pattern very well in myself. This is exactly.
Speaker 2:I would blame co-workers because I didn't know how to tell them to set deadlines and to set expectations for the projects that I was leading. I felt resentment with my husband because I thought that we had scheduled a date for a certain time and didn't make that crystal clear in a message. Like there's so many places I can think about our friendships right that the resentment would be very subtle and usually I just brush it under the rug or let it build up and then be more passive, aggressive, right. This was how I learned to stay safe. I wanted to be in harmony with everyone. I never wanted anyone to think that I was too nitpicky or that I was upset with them. I always wanted to be the cool girl. No, it's okay. No, big deal, you're an hour late, I'm not mad. But deep inside I was like so understanding those resentments and then saying, okay, for that example. Wow, I really wanted to meet you earlier I was looking forward to having a full day of activities together.
Speaker 2:There's so many ways that this can show up and it just takes practice. But having safe people as well, to practice with people whom you can be a little clunky with it helps so much. It's just muscle memory, so to speak. Just keep practicing, but the doorway is knowing where you're resent and start and figuring out what you actually want and asking that question.
Speaker 1:I feel like I want to get clunky tattooed on my forearm. It's a reminder Get cringy, get clunky. It's just such a beautiful way to live life that creates so much connection. I love that. One of the best pieces of life advice that I ever got as the chronic people pleaser was nice is not kind. I was like whoa Sometimes in the name of being nice, of being like oh, I just have to be nice, I have to be polite, I have to be available, I have to give, I have to always be in that service energy. But if that's leading to resentment, that's not kind and that's not in service to the relationship long-term and, like you said, builds. That resentment creates passive, aggressive communication and it creates separation. So I love to hear you share just that clarity on where that comes from and how we can start to practice it step by step.
Speaker 1:So, okay, well, this is so fun. I think that's a great place for us to start to wrap up on. So I'd love to ask you three quick little hot tip questions. Are you ready, ready?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:What is the number one thing that people can do to improve their wellness today?
Speaker 2:Pay attention to your inner world yourself, the acceptance, the welcoming, the kindness, the compassion or whatever shows up. If anyone can start to really create a safe place to be yourself, like you are the safety. You know that there is a space inside of you that is welcoming every color, every note on the piano key, that we can really live in a more vibrant reality. Like then life gets much more turned on and musical and I would say, yeah, be a safe space within yourself. Pay attention to what's going on inside of you.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's great. And what's your personal number one secret to living a vibrant life?
Speaker 2:Laugh Play. I'd say let yourself just be so silly, don't take it so seriously. Enjoy the crunchy conversations, enjoy the beauty and the darkness Like have a place where you can play more, laugh more, dance more, sing more. Just enjoy life, like such a short amount of time here.
Speaker 1:I love that. Play is the greatest medicine. I love that I get to play with you so much. After our hard conversation we went longboarding together like into the sunset, so I just love that. It so gets to be both. That's so beautiful. Okay, last one for you. What is the number one book that, if the entire world read it, that the world would be a happier, healthier, more beautiful place?
Speaker 2:The Untethered Soul and I haven't read it in a while, but it was a game changer for me to realize and understand it very simple terms, the part of me that's really witnessing versus getting attached to the voices in my head and having a general framework for navigating my inner world. So I would say start there, be untethered soul by Michael Singer.
Speaker 1:You know I'm currently reading that right now. It's such perfect timing. It's literally the book on my nightside table. I'm rereading it. It was the same as you changed my life, like eight years ago now, and Taylor, my partner, just finished reading it. He's like you have to reread it and so now I'm halfway through it and loving it. Such eternal advice and beautiful wisdom and insights and it's so like real life and so practical.
Speaker 2:That's probably why it's channeled in.
Speaker 1:Definitely you so new. Oh, I love that. Well, Lisa, where can our community find you online and how can people work with you?
Speaker 2:Find me online on Instagram, my handle is the Lisa Flynn, and I love to work with people one on one. It's just, it lights me up. I like having these more intimate containers and commitment. So for me, commitment looks like three months and we dive in. We need each other every week, sort of a process that I like to go through, which is the programming, or, let's say, break free from some of the programs like good girl, the nice guy, people pleasing, some of the things that we talked about, because those are the conditions that are really keeping us stuck.
Speaker 2:Then part two is that we move into expanding, like really downloading more of these skills and strategies to communicate, how to set boundaries, how to ask for what we want, really understanding what we can do to live a more vibrant and authentic and connected life.
Speaker 2:And then the third part is that you really go out there and embody it.
Speaker 2:So if you can imagine you're in a world like a forest and there are all these different trees and plants and flowers and animals, there might be one part of you in a corner of this forest where you know these programs are kind of blocking all the sunshine and the rain.
Speaker 2:So it's a seedling and once we kind of unpack and remove anything that's blocking that, then we can pour in this rain water and the nutrition, nutritious soil and really allow that to be nurtured and grow. And then the fun part is to see like, who are you, what flowers are blooming, what fruits come from that, and that's what I'm up to do is to discover who you are, what parts of you have been sheltered or unexpressed, and to really allow that to shine through. And that's the journey we get to go on, and I would just be so delighted to go on that with anyone who is in that place where they're ready, like you want, to you know, like most people know exactly what that piece of them is, which relationship, what energetic, what part of them that it is, and I'm just like, okay, it's been far too long, I'm ready to really own who I am.
Speaker 2:That's my favorite kind of person to to play with, to go on this journey with. So thanks for asking, hmm.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that so much and we'll link that up in the in the show notes your, your Instagram handle and how they can connect with you. And, and, of course, lisa and I, we would love to hear from you. So, if you're listening, we'd love to hear what your top takeaways from this episode is, what you learned, what you realized and and what you're really committed to creating when it comes to authenticity and connection in your own life. So send us both a DM on Instagram. We would so love to hear from you, and I'll see you back for another episode. We'll see you in a minute, take care.
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